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Bourn in Seattle, which may have specifically dealt with a new or continuing Dyer relationship. As Knutsen is now only building "lower bass point: models - a significant number of which are also short scale harp guitars, my feeling is that the Larsons or Dyer borrowed this design briefly from Knutsen. December, 1917: The new "Symphony Harp Mandolin Quintettes" are introduced with the first image of a production harp mandola.Apparently the late Dan Most had evidence for this, but, other than the close proximity (3 blocks) of the two men, I have found none, and this must remain speculation. As Knutsen is now only building "lower bass point: models - a significant number of which are also short scale harp guitars, my feeling is that the Larsons or Dyer borrowed this design briefly from Knutsen. This quintet is made up of the "Symphony Harp Plectral Quartet" - consisting of 1st and 2nd harp mandolins, harp mandola and harp mandocello - with an accompanying Symphony harp guitar.One thing that has frustrated Bob and others researching this subject is the spotty, random sampling of ads that were known from early 1900s journals specifically the BMG magazines (various journals which highlighted the activities of Banjo, Mandolin & Guitar players).I was finally granted access to, and allowed to photograph, a nearly complete run of Cadenza and Crescendo magazines.This section will compare the timeline of the Dyer instruments gathered from BMG journal advertisements with clues from surviving instruments, including visual features and label information all in a continuing effort to come up with a plausible serial number sequence and ultimately date these instruments.
Finally, we had to acknowledge that there are no known specimens of Knutsen-built instruments with a Dyer label.
I also took this as an opportunity to re-examine all of what we know about the Knutsen and Dyer instruments. I have not only completely re-vamped the Dyer dating scheme that Bob has worked so long and hard on, but created four different hypothetical timelines, any one of which may be closer to or further from the truth than the others.
Each one is an attempt to better fit with both the advertisement evidence and the many evidential anomalies.
Knutsen licenses his patent and signs the labels, while continuing to use the Symphony name on his own now-evolving harp guitars.
Both Knutsen and Dyer are thus using the "Symphony" name.
I am certain that there were different serial number series for the harp guitars, harp mandolins, mandolas and mandocellos - in three or four separate sequences, not one.